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it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs number, the fed's own economic outlook suggests that we're going to see a few weak quarters going forward, and economic growth doesn't really start to get traction until 2013 into 2015. so we could be treading water for quite some time here. interesting to see what that now means for obama's election campaign as we come up to this big presidential vote. back to you. >> and we will see that number less than three hours from now, the september jobs report. geoff, thanks so much. >>> still ahead this morning on "way too early," a little thursday night football for you with the undefeated arizona cardinals taking on the rams. turns out when your quarterback is sacked eight times, it bodes poorly for your chances. highlights ahead in sports. >>> plus -- >> there is no red america! there is no blue america! there is only the america that can't. believe how bad this guy did in the deba
it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs number, the fed's own economic outlook suggests that we're going to see a few weak quarters going forward, and economic growth doesn't really start to get traction until 2013 into 2015. so we could be treading water for quite some time here. interesting to see what that now means for...
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you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party folks saying, we shouldn't be spending anything at all. you have a republican that doesn't know what it stands for on what to do about the middle east and i think it comes through in the candidate's speech today. he doesn't have specifics about what he would do in syria. he seems to hint that we would go to war there but when pressed on it he doesn't actually say, we're going to go there. so he has a lack of clarity, less than a month before the election, about how he would lead. >> let's talk about that, richard. because i was struck by his statements about syria today when he talked about helping to arm syria's opposition. watch this. >> in syria, i'll work with our partners to identify and organize those member of the opposition who share our values and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to beat assads tanks and helicopters. >> five people who share our values, what does that mean? and then work to obtain that they have
you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party folks saying, we shouldn't be spending anything at all. you have a republican that doesn't know what it stands for on what to do about the middle east and i think it comes through in the candidate's speech today. he doesn't have specifics about what he would do in syria. he seems to hint that we would go to war there but when pressed on it he...
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and what about the afghan government? it's meaningless here, they say. you think it's possible that the taliban will try and come back? "yes, they will," he says. "it it makes a decades worth of american battles seem futile. it wasn't always like this. >> the united states military has begun strikes. >> reporter: at first -- >> one, two, three! >> reporter: -- the war had momentum. and a clear purpose. al qaeda with bases in afghanistan attacked the united states on 9/11. just three months later, the u.s. drove the taliban from power. al qaeda and osama bin laden were on the run. it was done with a few hundred cia officers, special forces and air power. a quick victory but not decisive. and then came the distraction of a new war in iraq. the taliban regrouped, and the u.s. began a nation-building project that has been far less successful. the government washington helped put in place is widely considered corrupt. president karzai is supposed to be out by 2015. but afghans don't believe it. the war has brought some benefits to afghans. 3 million girls now
and what about the afghan government? it's meaningless here, they say. you think it's possible that the taliban will try and come back? "yes, they will," he says. "it it makes a decades worth of american battles seem futile. it wasn't always like this. >> the united states military has begun strikes. >> reporter: at first -- >> one, two, three! >> reporter: -- the war had momentum. and a clear purpose. al qaeda with bases in afghanistan attacked the united...
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the government said it was billed more than $400 million in bogus claims. >>> new rules for secret service agents after that drunken partying at a colombian hotel back in april. they're now banned from drinking where they're staying. sharing sensitive information online could get you fired. >>> bruce davis, known as charles manson's right-hand man, has been recommended for parole. he served more than four decades for the 1969 killings of a musician and his stuntman. the california governor jerry brown will have the final say. >>> here's a scoop for you, the mars curiosity rover is about to do a little digging. it will collect sampling to see if there were ever favorable conditions for microbe yal life. >>> the presidential debate had one of the biggest audiences in history. "the new york times" says the number of people watching on tv and on the internet totalled about 70 million viewers. mitt romney's campaign is releasing three new tv ads today. one says president obama is creating debt instead of jobs. one ad will air only in nevada. another in ohio. >>> a new film about death of osama
the government said it was billed more than $400 million in bogus claims. >>> new rules for secret service agents after that drunken partying at a colombian hotel back in april. they're now banned from drinking where they're staying. sharing sensitive information online could get you fired. >>> bruce davis, known as charles manson's right-hand man, has been recommended for parole. he served more than four decades for the 1969 killings of a musician and his stuntman. the...
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there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20%, so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing regulations. i will eliminate them. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation. >> did you say on camera and other places that at times you thought it would be a model for the nation. >> you're wrong, brad. >> no, no, there's tape -- >> no, the tape out there -- continue to read the tape and the tape goes on to say for each state to be able to look at it. >> okay. but don't be fooled by romney's new language, of course. if the president wants to hold onto his job, he better make the american people understand that the so-called moderate mitt is just a mirage for the occasion. does he have it in him to do it? ron reagan is an
there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20%, so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing regulations. i will eliminate them. what...
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they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single women were backing mr. obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be dating. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> pollste
they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single...
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mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto
mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto
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they expect food from their government. well, you know, tamron, call me carl marx, but i believe the richest nation on earth should provide food to the old, to the young, to the disabled, to the mentally disturbed. the people who can't earn enough money to buy their own food. come on. we can do that. that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential debates be in helping you decide who to support for president? 38% said extremely, while the majority, 62%, said somewhat and not much. mark murray, is that in line with what we've seen when that question is posed before? >> it's an increase in the people that say
they expect food from their government. well, you know, tamron, call me carl marx, but i believe the richest nation on earth should provide food to the old, to the young, to the disabled, to the mentally disturbed. the people who can't earn enough money to buy their own food. come on. we can do that. that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country...
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they bring a level of dignity and strip away the stigma of being on government assistance. >> it's an interesting story that we will be following. >> and profitable clearly. >> we have to clear it there. thank you to jonathan and katrina. that is all for now. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. >> i'm meteorologist bill karins with your business travel forecast. a warm day across many areas of the nation, but we will deal with showers in the eastern u.s. not going to be that heavy. don't think airport delays will be too bad. wet weather the mid-atlantic through the ohio valley. we're looking at very dry and windy weather throughout the northern plains and warm and dry in the west. have a great day. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less expensive option than a traditional lawyer? at legalzoom you get personalized services for your family and your business that's 100% guaranteed. so go to legalzoom.com today for personalized, affordable legal protection. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox
they bring a level of dignity and strip away the stigma of being on government assistance. >> it's an interesting story that we will be following. >> and profitable clearly. >> we have to clear it there. thank you to jonathan and katrina. that is all for now. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. >> i'm meteorologist bill karins with your business travel forecast. a warm day across many areas of the nation, but we will deal with showers in the eastern u.s. not...
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i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster debate performance. you indicated the president may have been thrown off by romney's claims, which president obama says aren't what he has been running on. nevertheless, how is your team preparing the president right now to perform differently next time? >> well, you know, the "chicago sun-times" has an editorial that started, "obama on the facts, romney on style." you know, there was a different guy that appeared, as barack obama said, on debate night, that came up with a whole new set of policies and contradicted himself completely from what is the reality of the romney campaign. it's kind
i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster...
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we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other guy take charge? because if he can't answer that question, he may be doomed to defeat in the remaining two debates. second big question, can a victory over the facts of last night's debate, what was true and what was not, turn the tables now? can barack obama win by getting out the word he didn't get out last night? and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night,
we need a strong national government to support strong american people. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class...
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>> most people you expect people to go to washington to rein in the government not get rich by it. we said a day after the filing deadline that we hope that todd akin wins. wris in direct contrast to the state of maine where the democrats won't acknowledge their candidate. >> have you guys ruled out spending money against spending money on television ads against claire mccaskell? >> we hope todd aiken wins. >> i understand rob's under a lot of pressure. i take him at his word that the nrc is not going to play there. but everything he said just about claire mccassell is a lie. >> do you guys support angus king to win in that election? >> let's be clear why in maine. the republican party forced olympia snow out of the united states senate and now they're trying to replace her with the tea party and if they thought we were going to just sit by and let that happen. >> i'm up against a hard break, we'll be right back. it's the pee to get back to you. a perfect time to join weight watchers and start losing weight and feeling good right now. [ female announcer ] join now for free. hurry o
>> most people you expect people to go to washington to rein in the government not get rich by it. we said a day after the filing deadline that we hope that todd akin wins. wris in direct contrast to the state of maine where the democrats won't acknowledge their candidate. >> have you guys ruled out spending money against spending money on television ads against claire mccaskell? >> we hope todd aiken wins. >> i understand rob's under a lot of pressure. i take him at his...
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to have an honest, substantive conversation about medicare, about social security, about the role of government, and i think it's going to be, for lack of a better term, chris and chris, i think this is going to be a gentlemen's debate more than a hurricane-type debate. >> okay. >> i hope that's the case, at least. >> well, in 2008, in the vice presidential debate, joe biden took care like he was patronizing or bullying sarah palin, which to be clear is a different dynamic when you're debating a woman, and by most accounts, he succeeded at doing that, but a lot of people believe his best attribute is his sort of everyman persona. take a look at his debate against sarah palin. >> the notion that, somehow, because i'm man, i don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone. i don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. >> chris, that was powerful at the time and congressman ryan being more of a policy wonk, kind of deep in the numbers, what do you think about sort of just their personalities and what that brings to the debate? >> well, on the personality front,
to have an honest, substantive conversation about medicare, about social security, about the role of government, and i think it's going to be, for lack of a better term, chris and chris, i think this is going to be a gentlemen's debate more than a hurricane-type debate. >> okay. >> i hope that's the case, at least. >> well, in 2008, in the vice presidential debate, joe biden took care like he was patronizing or bullying sarah palin, which to be clear is a different dynamic...
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. >>> the oversight and government reform committee will hold a meeting to talk about what killed ambassador chris stevens. the timing is interesting because congress is out of town. congressm >>. >> mitt romney said he would not overturn president obama's executive order that granted temporary work permits for dreamers, children brought to the u.s. by illegal immigrants. this isn't the only area where the candidates agree on immigration. richard lui is here with where they stand. >> are the candidates the same or different on immigration? "no real differences between presidential candidates on immigration." "obama versus romney, 101, five ways they differ on immigration." president obama's deferred action plan for immigrants in the u.s. illegally or without authorization. today governor romney says he would continue it. 1.7 million unauthorized immigrants under 31 could benefit from this potentially staying two years with work authorization, as well. that is a lighter version of the dream act which would give permanent residency. the president stalled the president's effort in 2010. romney
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stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying above the fray. but what are they saying? are you hearing anything privately about this? >> reporter: the campaign strategy when it comes to the conspiracy theories is to say we're going to deal with the numbers as they exist. they have not gone out of their way to knock it down or stand by the numbers. there seems to be a belief that if elements of the base want to continue to hold onto that conspiracy theory, that may be something that strengthens them to have people fired up. as you can see we're getting a little bit of the preparations going on around us. >>
stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying...
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government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course so many were agast about president obama's performance on wednesday night. they were left asking is he weak? and if he is weak, are we, as a nation, weak? so deep breath, let's pause for a moment and think about what aspects of strength we value. it takes strength to deal honestly with your opponents, even when they deal dishonestly with you. it takes strength to take the tough calls, even when you are not sure how they will turn out. it takes strength to have the patience to watch policy become progress. a
government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course...
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government's going to do. >> you were at the commerce department. commerce department is always a mix of political and trade issues. how often does a decision like this preliminary decision like this made and then it ends up getting reversed? >> i wouldn't be surprised if the long run trend doesn't change anything at all. there might be an aberration for 30 days through the election, but look, if in fact the mexican tomato growers are always more efficient or effective, over time, they're going to dominate the market. >> i gree up in a part of florida when they say i remember when there were tomato fields all over here. let's move on to the election itself. you are an ambassador in the bush administration. do you understand the romney foreign policy? >> yeah -- i'm not a romney -- >> i know you're not. >> but here's the point. the world is better off and america's better off if there's leadership from the united states. >> you think rhetoric matters is what you're saying. the policy differences aren't much. >> might not be material much, but i think
government's going to do. >> you were at the commerce department. commerce department is always a mix of political and trade issues. how often does a decision like this preliminary decision like this made and then it ends up getting reversed? >> i wouldn't be surprised if the long run trend doesn't change anything at all. there might be an aberration for 30 days through the election, but look, if in fact the mexican tomato growers are always more efficient or effective, over time,...
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year when you and the president were in a budget stand off that threatened to shut down the federal government, you voted to continue paying members of congress including yourself in the event of a shut down. at the same time, you voted against a bill that would have ensured that members of the armed services continued to get paid. my question is this, eric. how could you in good conscious vote to continue your own pay but at the same time vote to stop paying our servicemen and women that you voted to send into combat in afghanistan? >> cantor never directly answered the question. do you think we're doing enough for our service members, what about it? >> by not answering it, he answered it. he's never done enough for our service people. he voted against a suicide prevention program for veterans returning from iraq and afghanistan. for every combat loss we have every day, we have 18 people who came back from afghanistan and iraq that commit suicide. the veterans are forgotten in this political gam mot that he has in d.c. he's intent to make sure the wealthiest get the tax cuts. he forgets that
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the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty. by the way, all that government uncertainty right now, while rates are very low, they actually could be lower. >> lower? >> they could be lower. rates are .25% higher over treasuries than they've ever been really because of fear and uncertainty because of future regulations that are still yet to come out. that's $50 a month for an average home buyer. >> and something else we don't talk a lot about but also very significant, even with the incredibly low mortgage rates, try and get one. you have got to go through the banks arextraordinarily stringent no
the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty....
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believing that individuals create jobs and wealth and opportunity and not the federal government. that's never changed with mitt romney. these social issues, mike, you need a scorecard because it's like ping-pong going back and forth. i don't think he cares. >> the first part of description of mitt romney is who he is. how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his problem on social issues was just brilliantly outlined by sam. it's the problem that a lot of voters, i think, might have with mitt romney. what does he do about the supreme court? what does he do about a bill to veto the funding for planned parenthood. what would he do as president, and that's what some voters will take into the booth with them. >> i think on those issues they're pretty straightforward. i think mitt romney will work to defund planned parenthood. i think mitt romney will appoint conservative justices. i think he will. >> with respect to defunding planned parenthood, what he told "the
believing that individuals create jobs and wealth and opportunity and not the federal government. that's never changed with mitt romney. these social issues, mike, you need a scorecard because it's like ping-pong going back and forth. i don't think he cares. >> the first part of description of mitt romney is who he is. how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his...
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he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions so you wouldn't, you know, necessarily eliminate a loophole, you would limit how much of them -- how many deductions you could take. that would give people discretion. you could figure out how high that should be. should it be a percentage of income? should it be a set figure? there are a lot of ways you can get these things done, willie. but again, if you do it in a campaign environment, you say here's this one, here's that one and people lock in on one side or the other against it, that's not the way to get things done. and that'
he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions...
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>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just committed to saying, listen, you have 10,000 employees now. if you have 12,000 employees a year from now, we are going to let you repatriate. but they've got to put it first. you hire, then you get the money back. because if you give them the money back first, they will just give it to shareholders. >> that's right. >> by the way, there are worse things to do than getting $2 trillion back circulating in the united states. because you know what, the shareholders aren't all gordon gecko. >> 90 million people. >> so i hear these people going, oh! they'll just give the money to share
>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just...
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacifi >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he had
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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and to get government better balanced. and it's clear there's going to be a ton of support to do it. mitt romney has his 200-day plan they've been working on, very much includes something like simpson/bowles in the first 100 days to get the economy back on track. and that'll be a big debate. >> i just said don't raise the deficit. >> okay. can i tell you one other thing mike allen sent me, willie? >> what? >> yesterday. as criticism -- >> i don't want to see it. >> sugary sodas intensifies, coke, pepsi, and dr. pepper are rolling out new vending machines that will put calorie counts right at your fingertips. it's a move in the right direction. thank you, mike allen for sending that to me. we need to get that in the show some time today, we also need to talk about the campaign -- >> did somebody put -- >> that's getting fascinating. >> joe, stop blustering. >> thanks, jim. >>> when we come back, the jets try to survive a showdown with the texans on monday night football. he had a chance, one drive to win it all and turn aro
and to get government better balanced. and it's clear there's going to be a ton of support to do it. mitt romney has his 200-day plan they've been working on, very much includes something like simpson/bowles in the first 100 days to get the economy back on track. and that'll be a big debate. >> i just said don't raise the deficit. >> okay. can i tell you one other thing mike allen sent me, willie? >> what? >> yesterday. as criticism -- >> i don't want to see it....